According to Berry's information, what he has, what he reads, that Glenn's character is undaunting. It means, yeah, we have no better alternative. Unconventional as that is.
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Da Bomba's Bunk-ah
It's getting awful cozy in Bauer's foxhole.
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TrueBlue2008 RE: Da Bomba Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 07:38 PM
I think it's going to resemble Saddam's "spider hole" after Labour Day.
"Never Alone?" Bauer's got that right. Not only is half of Bomberland looking for his scalp, but they'll be looking for other sacrificial lambs to slaughter for this 'act of wonton terror' we call the 2008 Grey Cup run.
Bauer's reign of terror in Bomberland is hanging by a thread. He probably is alone in a bunker somewhere. I hope that he has a pistol. Maybe Bauer will put himself out of our misery, not wanting his 'corpse' to dragged through the streets by horses like Mussolini's body was.
bigcanadiano Post subject: RE: Da Bomba Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 07:47 PM
Wasn't hitler so anxious to've his corpse toasted so that no one could handle the body.
Something to that sacrificial end.
I loathe those types, that make-beleive in yellow brick roads.
disciplineandpunish Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 07:42 PM
The real goat today is Kit Cartwright. If he were able to do his job, Glenn wouldn't have been forced to call his own plays. It's one thing to have success against the Tiger-Cats calling your own plays for the first time. It's quite another when you're facing the defending Grey Cup champions.
Glenn wasn't great today, but IMO he is not in a position where he can succeed.
bigcanadiano Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 07:44 PM
Give me a break.^ The receivers we have are few and far between. Enough said. (Not to sound hyper-sensitive.^) But, come on. . . really. No more excuses.
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"I guess we should have known that Glenns success against the Ti-Cats was only an apparation" - papazoola
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I guess we should have known that Glenns success against the Ti-Cats was only an apparation
my new sig^
thanks, zoo.
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re; jimbo
dearest glass-half full, (The other half hath spill). . .
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You went into my post and answered that Kevin's credentials were unquestioned and then said that was a red herring.
Absolutely. Correct as moses was himself.
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So I am reading that you feel that Kevin's ability makes no difference to the Bomber's losses or the last win.
Again, correct.
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I think that it's generally accepted that even Anthony Calvillo's performance. . .
No, I wish. . . but we all do really.
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That's not to say that I won't get on you again, if I feel that I have something to add.
Please, feel free to add more before entering the discussion again.
yours best,
bigc~
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How about this for a Berry-ism. . .
Sask. only managed to score under 20 points and still won. Funniest thing shouldn't it be us winning, Doug?
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TrueBlue2008 Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 07:20 PM
gfry09 wrote:
can anybody explain to me why we didn't grab Bishop when anybody with any common sense can see that Glenn just plain bites. Has he ended a single game that they were down and coming back without throwing an interception. We probably have the best receivers in the league, but a qb with the arm of a 2 year old. And Berry has got to go.
I can. Did you see the second half? That is the real Bishop. Unless the winds are blowing at 70 km/hr., he's useless. Though he possesses the strongest arm in the CFL, most of his passes are wild. Bishop's only success came from his running and dink and dunk stuff, which does NOT suit the WPD (Weapons of Pass Destruction) that the Bombers have.
Glenn looks washed up. If Chang or Randall can't get the job done, the Bombers will fizzle out this season at a pathetic 5-13 (+/- a win) and the Bombers will be seeing wholesale changes, which I hope includes, Cartwright, Berry, Taman, & Bauer.
2009 will definitely be a rebuilding year with old guards Stegall, Roberts, & Glenn gone, not to mention the rush for free agency after so many of our players took pay cuts for a Grey Cup run this year. This whole organization needs an enema, as far as I'm concerned.
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bigcanadiano Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 07:09 PM
I say make a petting zoo at Assinaboine Park with a sign that reads "do not feed the animals" in defiance of the assets this team has procured. This follows: make a personal appeal to Lyle Bauer that begs the team to report, while trading places with our animal friends, establish a non-negotiable agreement with the city's bureaucracy only to redeem the value of a never before used venue. (That way we can expose the vermin of species into the wild.) Finally, last but not least tell the players that act on incentive they must prepare to bag all their own groceries on a yearly basis.
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papazoola wrote:
WE'RE TIRED OF WATCHING CRAPPY FOOTBALL
Now?
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Hmmm. Think of making a FUTURE to do list:
Get rid of Taman. Check.
" " Bauer. Check.
Doug Brown-noser with a 2-7 record. Check.
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BigBlew wrote:
B&G and Papa, ...yep, that sums it. I don't even invest any emotion anymore, like watching reruns of "Everybody Loves Raymond".
You know something. . . that was gold.^
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Sask. jehovas vs. Wpg Blue Bauer's
Let the barn burner begin. . .
I have to say that the Bomba's brigade of panada fanatics look even better than I expected out in boonie country.
1st half
da bourgeois bombas 3
jehovas united 13
2-7.
BigBlew Post subject: RE: Sask. jehovas vs. Wpg Blue Bauer Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 06:13 PM
ROFL!!!
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PIGSEYE
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 11:26 AM
Excellent post by the shadow.
Cuts through all the bs and gets right to the heart of the matter. I wonder how many of those opposed to the public private partnership for a new stadium are actually season ticket holders ?
Bauer and the BOD, despite all the gloom and doom, have returned the season ticket base of this team to it's highest historic levels.
As I said before, show me another solution, that hasn't been drafted in fantasy land, that will ensure the long term viability of the club and I would throw my support behind it.
The fact is, without a new multi-use facility and guaranteed revenue streams from development, the team can't survive the long haul.
There is no hidden agenda here folks. The tax payers of the city and province shouldn't be burdened forever with the losses of the team or the expense of upkeep on a money losing facility.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 12:59 PM
When a jehovah witness stops at my door to ask what I feel about god, all I do is listen intently.
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Excellent post by the shadow.
As for that other 'bs' as pigs loves to refer to, I believe it's hard to equate the terms "money losing facility" without referring to the plausibility of an argument.
This is not a taxpayers initiative. It is Bauer undermining the good of a community ownership model into a vaccuum. It is a means to an end. (Which by all accounts of a community based team, does not equate with.) The COMMUNITY is an ENDS in ITSELF. To disguise Bauer with a masked outlaw does not give the authority to fulfill what the COMMUNITIES objectives are. The job is to maintain our value on a football field. I trust this paraphrases the ultimate reason, which Bauer as president of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers has lost. There is simply no better alternative in describing this fact.
(1) As a taxpayer myself: Bauer does not make the rules. (remember this follows pigseye's logical rehbailitation of a team in "Desperate Need of Future Sustainability.")
(2) If what the headlines read in our newspapers follow Bauer's profit motive, does this make every citizen accountable simply due to its propaganda. This seems as if a clever way of hiding in a foxhole.
(3) As far as the foxhole goes, it runs deep into the bushery of a Bomber BoD's straight into the secret quarters of Lyle Bauer's office "of the commander". (This also points out. . . )
(4) Sam Katz as mayor making a point of calling out Asper's bids that the city join "The Old Boys Club".
All of the above states that the teams interest have polarized into what Bauer's intentions are for the club. It does not in fact illustrate a COMMUNITY owned portion of the club, but that Bauer acts as a unilateral investor seeking to make the status quo abide to such deceit.
It is in conclusion,
1) The city should immidiately interven with Bauer's pyramid-like scheme, and infiltrate a new president.
2) This follows that Bauer has not been performing the duty of a community owned team, that the Winnipeg Blue Bomber's BoD's be immediatly replaced with new LONG TERM members.
3) That the city appoint a new private council that have rules and guidelines specific to what a community owned team should dicipate, based on the product on the field.
PIGSEYE
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 02:26 PM
I think you have a couple things confused there bigco.
The BOD, headed by Hildahl, are separate from the football operations side, ofwhich Bauer is President.
The BOD are the ones who call the shots as far as the future of the team goes, not Bauer.
Do you really think that Bauer has been able to pull the wool over the eyes of the entire BOD for his own self serving interests ? Do you even know who sits on the BOD ? I suggest you take a look at those sitting on the board as you will see they are some of the finest business people this province has ever produced.
At which point, your entire theory of corruption and self serving interest on the part of Bauer completely falls to pieces.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 02:44 PM
From the perspective of a BoD's objectively looking to seek removal provided the president has been compromised due to collusion.
As far as abdicating from that ever so insightful Mr. Hidahl I should suspect speaks volumes in favor of what my argument originally proposes.
Any ulterior motive that Bauer abstains from reveals nothing - but that as long as the BoD's remain on side is completely relevant. The task is simple: Bauer markets the feasibility of the team in order for Asper to keep pumping out proposal after proposal after proposal.
The city won't buy it - neither should we.
papazoola
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 02:47 PM
blue&gold4ever wrote:
Housedog, your just another blind fan who thinks that Canadinns Stadium is fine and as for 27,000 fans not complaining about the washrooms and legroom, your dead wrong, if you polled the 27,000 fans, i guarantee at least half if not more would say our stadium is outdated and totally disgusting.
You cannot tell me there is nothing wrong with the washrooms, consessions, legroom and the list goes on. If your happy with a dump for a stadium so be it, i sure as heck hate Canadinns Stadium, downright ugly, dirty, disgusting and quite frankly embarressing. Everyone is entitled to there opinion, but honestly, how can you sit there and say 27,000 fans are happy? That is just a bad argument.
....for those who think a white-wash job of our present stadium will work ...welll for lack of a better word it, WON'T 'WASH' ...for those who use the washroom facilities...make sure you have a bio-hazard suit on and a close-pin on your sniffer...cuz the washrooms are disgusting...Lets face it ...the days of this ol stadium are numbered...Too many huge up-grades to make it viable...We need a new facility...plain and simple.....any other way is dreaming in high-definition....
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PIGSEYE
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 02:48 PM
Once again you skirt the issue, Bauer does not have the authority to determine the future ownership of the club. That responsibility lies with the BOD and would have to be by a majority vote.
So again I ask you, do you really believe that Bauer has fooled the majority of the BOD for his own self serving interests or are they also in collusion ?
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 02:50 PM
From the perspective of a BoD's objectively looking to seek removal provided the president has been compromised due to collusion.
As far as abdicating from that ever so insightful Mr. Hidahl I should suspect speaks volumes in favor of what my argument originally proposes.
Any ulterior motive that Bauer abstains from reveals nothing - but that as long as the BoD's remain on side is completely relevant. The task is simple: Bauer markets the feasibility of the team in order for Asper to keep pumping out proposal after proposal after proposal.
The city won't buy it - neither should we.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 02:53 PM
^ So again there is an integral lesson to be had, especially when considering how Bauer has spun a pyramid monopoly on a community owned franchise.
PIGSEYE
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 02:56 PM
Question for you bigco, before the whole private ownership issue took hold, what was the plan for the future survival of the franchise ?
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 04:09 PM
None.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 06:46 PM
Question for you pigseye, tell me was there a hostile take over bid before the whole private ownership issue took place?
papazoola
Post subject: Posted: Aug 30, 2008 - 01:16 PM
I would like to see the best possible situation for the Bombers...and if that means private ownership..i say go for it....we know what public ownership has netted us recently...a sea of debt...and i faintly remember a Grey Cup we won....in a long-forgotten time
As for now, i don't see aything happening with govt. funding ,seeing as Harper and his gang are ready to pull the plug... everything will be put on the back-burner; IF the Liberals are elected there might be a more sympathetic ear in Ottawa for Asper, but that might be a stretch, seeing as the economy is going into the tank.... looks like it's nada....The new stadium and venture for the Peg could be doomed to failure....so get used to the dump boys...it could be around for quite awhile....Just my opinion, hope i'm wrong/////
TrueBlue2008
Post subject: RE: Predictions for Labour Day? Posted: Aug 27, 2008 - 11:16 AM
I've been really hard on Berry, Cartwright, Bauer, & the Bombers this year. This next game in Saskatchewan will define their season.
If the Bombers can constructively (and destructively) channel the rage of having last year's Grey Cup stolen from them by Saskatchewan, they will annihilate the Riders and go on to make the playoffs--maybe even the Grey Cup if they mothball Cartwright and Berry cuts back on the psychological abuse.
If they play without direction or passion, they will lose and go down with a whimper this season--just like Lyle Bauer planned it, in my opinion.
The masses will cry out for private ownership, Asper will get his sweetheart land development deal, and Bauer will double his salary.
Call me cynical, but that's the way I see it.
papazoola
Post subject: RE: Predictions for Labour Day? Posted: Aug 27, 2008 - 12:51 PM
....i'd love to think success on the field always equates to happenings with the team , off of it....doesn't work that way all the time...however...my prediciton
IF the real Blue Bombers show-up and also looking at a Rider injury list a mile long; coupled with dysfunction and confusion in their quarterbacking ranks ...BigBlue should come out on top... You just never know with the team this year...We could hammer the hell out of them orrrrr go back into our funk, slink back to the Peg a beaten lot, looking at BIG changes around the cornor...we'll see after this game which road we're going down....the picture will become quite clear????
billyjimbo
Post subject: Posted: Aug 29, 2008 - 04:00 PM
Blue 37
Green 11
billyjimbo
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 12:42 PM
bigcanadiano wrote:
Are you serious??
As serious as nudist in a deep-frying contest!
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 01:08 PM
Well then that settles it. 8-ball in the corner pocket. That will be the score.
billyjimbo
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 12:52 PM
How did this spin from Bishop to Milt?!?
Just one more example of a bad idea for a thread being salvaged I guess...
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 01:07 PM
Yes, precisely.
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Bombers sign Chang...
Chang is good. That's the unofficial scouting report.
papazoola
Post subject: Posted: Aug 30, 2008 - 01:27 PM
...Milt will be doing his thing in Riderville....annoying the locals and scoring tds.......Stegall is a class act...a fact the opposition recognizes....he will be missed on this Bomber team ...more than a lot of people would like to admit....
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 12:34 PM
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PIGSEYE
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 11:51 AM
shadow7 wrote:
Papa you might as well give up the arguement with these two as you only provide bighead with more reason to write his senseless dribble that most people including myself can not figure out what he is trying to say. Compensating for something small? While were Bauer bashing let me ask these questions. How much in debt was the franchise before Bauer came on board? How much in debt are they now? How does Bauer equate to the on field performance when he does not recruit or coach the players? Exactly what has Bauer done to destroy this team?
Another excellent post by the shadow.
A discussion can only be taken so far. Once all the facts have been laid out, it's them up to the people to decide for themselves what is real and not just slander.
What I see on here is a disgruntled mob, moreso by the teams performance than anything else, who blame Bauer and the BOD for maintaining the status quo with the team. Yet in the same breath, they want Bauer and the same BOD to maintain the status quo when it comes to the long term viability of the team ? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Pappa and I rarely see eye to eye on anything outside of football, because our political views diverge, but when it comes to the future of our football team, we are as united as two can be.
It's not just Bauer and the BOD who think a public private partnership is the way to go. It's our political leaders as well, Doer on the left and Katz and Toews on the right. How can two diverse political ideologies agree ? Because it is the right thing to do for the best interests of everyone involved, from the team to the tax payer.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 12:24 PM
So I guess that means the Bauer has made a choice to ignore the community ownership model in doing so.
Here's another thing pig, if you are preaching to be a blindman hopping on one leg I suppose Bauer will be really happy you're deciding to weigh anchor. Instead Bauer commands a ship that no one wants, but creates an illusion that the stadium issue is within sight.
Think about it.
- This way Asper makes a collective amount of bidding in the process.
- Bauer is taking a unilateral condition which this marketing campaign acts as the focus.
- As team president Bauer has projected this to the fans in a mere effort to sway us, but the political ideologies are skewed to say the least.
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blame Bauer and the BOD for maintaining the status quo with the team. Yet in the same breath, they want Bauer and the same BOD to maintain the status quo when it comes to the long term viability of the team ?
I completely agree with you. Well said.
TrueBlue2008
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 08:14 PM
Don't worry. Now that this season has finally tanked on Labour Day like Lyle Bauer planned, the Asper takeover bid will go unopposed as Bomber fans look for a savior to resurrect this dying team.
Unfortunately for Bomber fans, their misery is only beginning. Darth Bauer was greased by Asper for tanking the 2008 season and will take his place at the Emperor Asper's side as lapdog/GM.
The next few years in Bomberland will make the Gliebermans in Ottawa look like professionals. The Bombers will get the team they deserve, one way or another.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: RE: Lions-Als 08-29-2008 Postgame Discussion Posted: Aug 30, 2008 - 03:08 AM
Duval is one of the best kickers in the cfl. I'd have him on my team any day.
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I also agree about the call on Samuels. I love the guy.
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trade him to BC or Hamilton.
Obviously, $300k for Printers salary might work there. Who knew? Taman was the same guy who drove up Printers asking price before he signed in Hamilton. Go figure. Rude awakening by Taman. Short on the sweet irony department. B.C. would be interesting to see reunited with Buono-albino.
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papazoola
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 08:25 PM
xJdawg13x wrote:
there are 2 factors in this loss that need to be fixed and fixed NOW Serna was pathetic there was no need for the riders to be startin mid feild every drive in 1st half his punts with the wind were what 30-35 yards.
And Glenn needs to go and the only way now is for him to be traded and i think are only hopes of that is either trade him to BC or Hamilton.
And where was Stanford Samuels i thought he played amazing at corner against hamilton and i think he's better than Amos.
....Samuels had to be sacrificed due to the import ratio (a healthy scratch)...so we could start Edwards....no offence to Edwards cuz i know he;s a good one ...BUT C'MON a guy with torn cartilage in his ribs for a healthy db. who can make a difference...That's a coaches call...and the wrong one was made in my estimation.....just one of many
http://www1.cfl.ca/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=479922&highlight=#479922
Here's how fans of probably the best team in the league right now are talking, zoo.^ Time we measure up, n'est pas?
papazoola
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 08:32 PM
....SELF-DESTRUCTED...would be one summation of Glenns season so-far...and probably the last we've seen of him as the NO.1 pivot...There is also under-lying problems with the team....BUT Kevin has made himself the visible target and will wear the horns....so-long Kev... it's been a tough year...
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KK-FTW
Post subject: RE: "The Passion of the Glenn" Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 08:07 PM
I think i know where Crandell is going
bigcanadiano
Post subject: RE: "The Passion of the Glenn" Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 08:37 PM
Probably for an MPI detuctable, maybe.
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papazoola
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 08:39 PM
bigcanadiano wrote:
Who is Trestman?
...a coach at the beginning of the year WHO asked for and received advice from Berry on how this game should be played (would you believe it)....Either Berry doesn't listen to his own advice on how to be successful in this league or he's a complete _ _ _ _ _
i'll let you fill in the last word
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bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 31, 2008 - 08:41 PM
Nice post, zoo. I completely forgot who HfxTC was referring to Trestman as the coach.
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Glenn wasn't great today, but IMO he is not in a position where he can succeed
About the only post in this entire thread that actually has a clue, and he isn't even a Bomber fan.
The offense has absolutely no identity. Two weeks ago against Hamilton, they were a power running team, smashing the ball with tight ends and Haywood at full back and going deep with the pass. Today they were back to a bunch of pansies, who got their azzes handed to then physically by the Rider defense.
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You would think the entire offense went with a game plan wouldn't particularly show a defense what they've already done this season. The problem has been on execution all season. Therefore, without consistency on offense, no guts, no glory. Cliche as it sounds, it's not really.
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Post subject: Re: RE: I knew MTL had great fans Posted: Sep 01, 2008 - 01:12 AM
bigcanadiano wrote:
You would think Berry has taken all of this into account.
Accountability has to start from somewhere to get this across, it starts with Bauer and Taman nesting eggs without the hatching, they've incubated this team instead.
Bauer and Taman have incubated a bunch of ROTTEN EGGS!!!!!
bigcanadiano
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: I knew MTL had great fans Posted: Sep 01, 2008 - 01:14 AM
Yes - yes absolutely my friend. All is not fine.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: I knew MTL had great fans Posted: Sep 01, 2008 - 01:03 AM
but this is about a pm re; Trestman from HfxTC gave me.
Career Offensive Coordinator in the NFL (16 years). Ran in to trouble on the Dolphins in 2004 then went to coach in North Carolina and his (1) lack of recuiting skills and interest prevented him being succesful.
Was invited last season as a guest coach in Montreal by Popp who knew Trestman from his father (Popp) and Trestman coaching together with the Cleveland Browns.
Got the job in Montreal and asked the owner to increase the coaching staff by 500k and his player budget by 500k to allow Trestman a scout team.
Hired Martino and Elizondo and met with the Als Captains and Oline in January.
Rebuilt the entire playbook, Training camp and practice schedules and
(2)told players jobs and playing time would be awarded based on work ethics, Team spirit and character. He honnored that.
Never ever takes credit for anything.
(3)Hones up to his mistakes
When asked about a player's performance always relates back to their work ethics rather then performance and credits their teammates for making the individual performance possible.
In my opinion the man is in the process of building a football dynasty in Montreal. He has a 3 year contract but I'm affraid as Marv Levy before him. The Als will lose him to the NFL within two years.
Hope that answers your question. I hope Bomber fans get a Coach and GM next year they deserve.
This post summarized a lot of vitues associated with what has put MTL on the right path this season. Something you have to wonder; would make more sense.
I traced what I Thought were important points 1-3 are italicized.
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