papazoola wrote:
...oh my gawd my man (trueblue08)....you typify the reason why this city goes no-where or takes ions to proceed in any positive direction....study?????we've study the bloody thing to death....and have received various proposals on same....When is it we actually start DOING SOMETHING....and your last statement.....WE ARE NOT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY....the guy is investing in a venture that will net the city a brand new facility IN THE NEAR FUTURE....not some studied to death proposal that will happen in the next decade after the franchise is gonzo...We have an opportunity NOW...which will secure the Bombers for the forseeable future and beyond....I'm tired of the ring-around-the-rosy ...study after study after study ad nauseum....IT'S TIME FOR SOME BLOODY ACTION????????good grief
housedog
Post subject: Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 09:44 PM
Papa, you should let the people of Winnipeg decide by a vote in the next election or a plebicite. Many Bombers fans don't share your's or Asper's solution to long term viability. The sky is not falling as Bauer would suggest. And by Bauer making comments eithier your with us or against us ,only creates more division amongst Winnipeg fans and residents. But he has had a good teacher in the name of Asper. Good sound Management and long term viability go hand and hand. Right now we have very poor management. Even if a new stadium is built, This will only generate X amount of dollars. Presently the Bombers are nearly selling out their games. With a 40,000 seat stadium there is no guarantee that the team could sell over 30,000 tickets per game. There is only so much entertainment capital in this city. The rest of Manitoba could care less about the Bombers. With the bad management and lack of entertainment revenues it makes no difference if a new facility is built or not. Another stumbling block is if Asper gets his new stadium who will pay the operating cost of this venue. I can tell you it won't be Asper. The taxpayer will be left holding the bag. All this for 10 games a season and some 40 + million in taxpayers money. I know you don;t like this but more study is needed.
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bigcanadiano
Post subject: Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 09:09 P
Actually, the poor mans version of Bauer's master-plan is to con-the-living into a tale of darkness.
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TrueBlue2008
Post subject: Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 07:36 PM
PIGSEYE wrote:
So if the city sells off the land, why would the new owner want to share the revenues from it with the Bombers ?
Winnipeg Enterprise's reward would be the millions of dollars received for the prime real estate on Maroons Rd.
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Seems to me, that selling the land would have to be contingent on the team getting a share of the revenues because a new stadium alone won't be enough to finance the team.
A new sports complex would make money for the team by operating 365 days a year, not lose money. Money from the Maroons Rd. land sale + govt. $ would provide the seed money required for building the stadium. Free land, tax breaks by the city and other concessions would pave the way for a new stadium.
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Isn't that exactly what Asper is proposing ?
Yes & No. Asper wants a sweet land development deal like True North got. He also wants provincial and federal money plus he wants to own and manage the team. Asper also will likely retain some of the current BoD as consideration for voting unanimously for his letter of intent to purchase instead of resisting his hostile takeover bid of OUR team like they should have. (Talk about a conflict of interest!)
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Perhaps you can provide a link to the auditors report of this new proposal so we can see that it makes financial sense for the team before we sign ?
This is Management Accounting 101. You do not continue to operate an obsolete stadium that is losing money each year on a parcel of land worth millions of dollars when you can sell the land and build a state-of-the-art sports complex that will make money for the club.
A professional marketing study should be obtained by the new Board of Directors to determine what kind of stadium should be built and where. I think that's what you meant by "auditor's report."
Auditors are like coroners. They only arrive after the body's cold. This Bomber baby is still alive and kicking! There's no reason in the world to give OUR baby away to David Asper or anybody else.
TrueBlue2008
Post subject: A Call for Effective Community Ownership Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 05:39 PM
If you believe that an effective Board of Directors can lead the Bombers to a prosperous future without private ownership, then you probably agree with the following:
- the Maroons Rd. property should have been sold years ago to help finance a stadium that would generate revenues for the club 365 days a year
- a Board of Directors that truly represents the interests of its co-owners, the citizens of Winnipeg and Blue Bomber fans everywhere, would have resisted a hostile takeover bid by David Asper
- the current Bomber Board of Directors should be dissolved and a new BoD assembled that acts in the best interests of OUR community owned franchise.
If this is the case, then please sign the online petition below. Once the petition reaches its goal of 1000 signatures (more signatures will be added if public demand is high), the petition will be presented to City Hall after a press release is made to ensure that Bomber Fans' voices are heard.
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# 8: 6:06 pm PDT, Aug 22, Marco Almeida, Canada
It is time for something far more reasonable in reproaching the present state of affairs. That being said: the more viable an option should be determined as it will be allocated to better the community ownership model.
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buffalo1 wrote:
Who wouldn't be looking forward to a barn burner? That doesn't make sense.
bigcanadiano
Post subject: Re: RE: ...LABOUR DAY... Posted: Aug 22, 2008 - 08:50 PM
I thought barn burners were thought of as games that weren't matched up evenly in the sense they're chaotic, and no one who's going to win. To me that's not dramamtic, it's just two teams playing crappy really needing to win.
Some people think that as exciting, but I don't. . . you could think of the superbowl NYG/NE as a barn burner. Meaning in my eyes, what could have been a much better football game was an all out over-achieving team over-coming the point spread. I believe "barn-burners" concur with most sport gambling enthusiasts, however, not myself.
Thus, a panda-bomber squad, and a Rider team wearing a donkey-kong outfit
If you don't agree with my definition. . . gawd help all of you.
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To be honest, I was reluctant to create this thread topic. It's a labour day game that I am NOT looking forward to.
The REASON being, it'll be a total barn burner, between a panda-bomber squad, and a Rider team wearing a donkey-kong outfit. The Riders are falling back down to earth, (not like they were anything special to watch, even when they were 6-0.) Needless to say, the irony involved is simple:
1- the bomba's were a team that are playing like a 3 but should be a 10, it's been an evident disaster from the first play of scrimmage this season.
2- the riders on the other hand are a team playing like a 10, but are nothing more than a 5 or less.
Plain as cream-cheese folks. . . this labour day game is a barn burner.
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It's worth mentioning my personal-self in the manner beaf implies, because it has very little to do with what actually affected me. What I tried to explain was rather simple if I do say so myself: it's rather convenient that I dismiss your view, equating me with michael phelps. That's all I in fact had done, so to ask me 'why' at this conjecture is rather becoming of the situation that developed. It's a double edged sword, mr.beaf. So, I thank you for that. But the disguise is quite vague, if you think asking a loaded question in some obscure sense of using reverse psychology has anything to do with it, again. . . you're shooting yourself in the foot. I also take the liberty in answering your question as truthfully. But, if this answer doen't suffice, I can impress any other question with the same regard. I've got a million of them, when the truth is all that sets you free apparently.
So yes, I have no problem having dismissed your original statement. I still do. In fact I did. Then, I did it a second time. Now, I'm doing it a third. Perhaps, I'll do it a forth. You be the judge. heh.
beaf Re: uhmazing...
« Reply #39 on: Today at 05:43 PM »
jesus christ neverfuckingmind i just won't address you or refer to you anymore. let's see you find a way to be insulted then
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I concur.
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beaf Re: uhmazing...
« Reply #36 on: Today at 03:58 PM »
bigc, you went from fine with my post at 5pm to hating the same post at 7:30pm
why did the intent shift in two and a half hours without a post from me in that time period?
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Quote from: beaf on Today at 02:47 AM
but i'm the moron
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touche.
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Beaf and merk specifically. Vegas to a lesser degree. I mean, I wasn't saying anything about phelps. When I learned he lives with adhd I found myself connected to the person.
Then as I said in my post:
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some of you get too comfortable in the habit of monikering myself for so many years, that you fail to see the absurdity of your own posts. I can live with miscommunication (because this is the internet) but knowing exactly where you guys are coming from is a different story altogether.
. . . because I wasn't "cutting phelps down" or in beaf's words decieving my own athletic ability through lack of will power, or in vegas proclaiming I'm worthy of comparison to "the greatest olympian" of all time.
It's just an intelligent guy (me) having to debunk for the record.
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who are you mad at this time, biggs?
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VegasRe: uhmazing...
« Reply #31 on: Today at 10:54 AM »I'll pretend that I get it, but I really don't
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^what else is new.
re; retard-unity
No need to be confused, we all should know when to feel sorry for a spaz-retard. That being said: it's much easier to escape back into the foxhole you came out of with some form of intent no matter whether it was unprovoked, or perpetuating maliciously or not. That way, you know, it's way better to come-back through cowardice then to pretend it's not what was meant in the first place. You know, it's okay when you do it but it's not okay if the other guy. . .
Oh yeah, I was making fun of michael phelps. Being a retard means never having to say your sorry.
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Mercules « Reply #26 on: Today at 02:43 AM »So you are admitting Phelps could beat you in the 100m backstroke?
beaf « Reply #27 on: Today at 02:47 AM »and once again, bigc takes offense to an inoffensive comment / but i'm the moron
==================Vegas Re: Things you do at work when you're not working
« Reply #44 on: Today at 07:37 PM »
Big C is the Socrates of our time
Reg Re: Things you do at work when you're not working
« Reply #43 on: Today at 06:46 PM »
how's tanya, big c?
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Quote from: Sadie on August 21, 2008, 01:40PM
christ, I had no idea they were fucking. I had to go anal and read that one...fun dramarama over there, damn.
this is why I choose not to meet (or ultimately fuck) any of you.
just complicates things and looses that pleasent anonymity you get from message boards.
That's fresh.
A couple immune to break-ups, they're also too shallow minded to admit their weaknesses. Sounds like a hate-fuck. That or an over-compulsive romp based on poor sense of self, mainly in over compensating for their sexual ambigous escapades. As result, trusting a person of Aaron's nature is simply based on fact that even if god posted on his internet board proclaiming he was the son of judas. Jen, simply has one of those extra y-chormosomes that inebriates her libido in an unwholesome fashion. Congrats on your hate-fucking endeavors.
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Stupidiest thing, if someone wants to talk to you - you can reply back. That's the last I heard.
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